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  Just got a visit from the Elders

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  first a little background.

  i've never been a jw, my spouse was born in and disfellowshipped as a young adult.

  when i saw the subsequent treatment from family i was disgusted.

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  Resistance is Futile

  First a little background. I've never been a JW, my spouse was born in and disfellowshipped as a young adult. When I saw the subsequent treatment from family I was disgusted. It made me want to find out every thing I could about the Watchtower Cult. JW's from my spouse's side of the family will still talk to me because I've never openly criticized their "religion". I'm a fairly optimistic person so I've always held out hope that some of them will wake up. There is hope for some of the younger generation, people aren't as gullible as they used to be.

  My spouse wasn't home when the Elders dropped by. I know they were simply being good Watchtower drones and following Corporate procedure by doing their annual checkup on disfellowshipped ones. What is the real purpose of the annual visit? Keep in mind that my spouse has been out for several years and this is the Elder's first visit, although I've heard that's fairly common.

  It's truly a sick system the Watchtower has created. Kick anyone out who won't blindly follow the leaders of the Cult, then cut off contact with the person's "friends" and family. Then send out Watchtower drones to attempt to assimilate the person back in. I imagine this technique is not very successful at pulling people back in, but does probably work occasionally.

  Anyone hear actually gotten an annual Elder's visit? How did it go?
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  Words many of us hear live by.

  by I quit! in

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  i copied this from the happy herbivore's page on facebook.

  she posted this photo of a bumper sticker that read.

  "it'is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not".

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  "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." Marcus Aurelius
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  Could the JWs fit the defintion of Fascism?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  fascism ( /'f?

  ?z?m/) is a radicalauthoritariannationalist political ideology.

  [1][2] fascists seek rejuvenation of their nation based on commitment to an organic national community where its individuals are united together as one people in national identity by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood through a totalitariansingle-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and eugenics.

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  Resistance is Futile

  While there might be some similarities, I don't think it's very accurate to think of them as being fascist. Fascism usually involves a highly militaristic society. The common fascist desire for racial purity also doesn't apply to JW's.

  JW culture would be better defined as a totalitarian theocracy with the Governing Body ruling the people under the pretense of divine backing.
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  Active JW's please respond.

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  i have a fairly simple request.

  i need to know if the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures is still available for ordering from the society.. i was recently talking to a jw relative and he claimed it was out of print and not available for ordering.

  i'd like to find out if he was lying to me or not.

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  Resistance is Futile

  Thanks for the responses, looks like there's conflicting info on it's availability. Hopefully more people will chime in.

  How do special orders work, are there books not kept on the stock list that can be requested? Why keep them secret?
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  Only an apostate would flee to the forbidden zone! Which movie was this a quote from?

  by usualusername in

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  only an apostate would flee to the forbidden zone!

  which movie was this a quote from?.

  uun.

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  Resistance is Futile

  The "forbidden zone" reminds me of Planet of the Apes. Not sure about the apostate part of your quote.
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  Active JW's please respond.

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  i have a fairly simple request.

  i need to know if the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures is still available for ordering from the society.. i was recently talking to a jw relative and he claimed it was out of print and not available for ordering.

  i'd like to find out if he was lying to me or not.

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  Resistance is Futile

  I have a fairly simple request. I need to know if the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures is still available for ordering from the Society.

  I was recently talking to a JW relative and he claimed it was out of print and not available for ordering. I'd like to find out if he was lying to me or not. Would anyone still attending meetings be willing to attempt to order one? I know I can download it online from "apostate" websites, but need to confirm if active JW's have access to the KIT.
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  Funeral etiquette - Is crying allowed or seen as a lack of faith?

  by usualusername in

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  i have been to a few funerals and recalled that at many the cloest family members did not cry.. .

  ok cultures and a number of factors may explain that, but could crying mean you don't believe in the resurrection?.

  is it social compliance?.

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  I've been to a few JW funerals that my non-JW relatives attended as well. The non-JW's all commented later about the lack of emotion displayed from the deceased's family. I later brought this up and heard almost the same answer from all the dubs "Well we believe in the resurrection". But the catch is that almost all the non-JW's are Christians and also believe in an afterlife in which we get to see our relatives as well.

  The behavior of JW's at funerals is a conditioned response. The fact that the majority of the funeral talk is a Watchtower infomercial for the potential recruits in the audience may also have something to do with the lack of emotion.
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  Does the Watchtower still print the "Kingdom Interlinear Translation" book?

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  it was last updated in 1985. does the watchtower still print it?

  could a jw place an order for one at the kingdom hall?.

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  My JW relative claimed it was out of print and was unable to order one. I just hope to definitively determine whether he was lying to me or not. Wouldn't all Kingdom Halls have the same order list?

  It's not on the Watchtower CD. I think it's obvious that the Governing Body doesn't want JW's checking the accuracy of the New World Translation.
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  Does the Watchtower still print the "Kingdom Interlinear Translation" book?

  by Resistance is Futile in

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  it was last updated in 1985. does the watchtower still print it?

  could a jw place an order for one at the kingdom hall?.

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  It was last updated in 1985. Does the Watchtower still print it? Could a JW place an order for one at the Kingdom Hall?
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  The new kids DVD - was it deliberate? What are we missing?

  by cedars in

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  normally i don't go in for these conspiracy theory ideas, but a comment by kurtbethel on another thread got me to thinking.

  might this latest dvd actually be proof that there are operatives inside watchtower hq who are deliberately sabotaging the society's material?

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  Resistance is Futile

  It's not a conspiracy, they are just that out of touch with reality. The men who worked on the DVD and the Governing Body who approved it are almost fully insulated from the outside world. Contact with non-cult members is very rare or even nonexistent for these men. This creates a dangerous system were there are no real checks and balances, no alternative view point is heard.

  Releasing the DVD in 15 min sections does seem odd at first glance. But it actually makes good business sense. Say they actually created a 45 minute DVD and released it at a convention. The donation for the DVD would probably be the same amount regardless of the length of the video. Split that DVD into three "releases" and you increase your profits.